the only way to attack this is to slow down the growth of healthcare. and the one area that you could really do that tort reform where a quarter of all spending in medicine is spent on defensive maneuvers that are unneeded. that $600 billion a year. not a word of that in obama care. no interest in that. that would offend the trial lawyers. on every entitlement they have shown zero seriousness. >> bret: not to mention means testing attractive on the high end. one would think are part of that when you get to that level. >> at least we don't know we're there. i agree with steve the republicans perhaps, probably a bigger risk here. you hear speaker boehner saying the perhaps wasn't paying attention election. the reality is the white house has a bigger bully pulpit here. so how they maneuver and handle themselveses is important. we are talking a few weeks before we see the fine print that you are talking about. >> bret: you know, we were out on the campaign trail. for people who thought once we got past the election this would be breathing room to deal with